Too Much Gore, Not Enough Horror

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:06

Hello Hello, I'm Garrett, and welcome to another episode of Ice Coffee with Heavy Screen. Of today's episode, we'll be going over how much more is too much. So stay tuned.

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Hello.

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Hello.

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Oh. How are you? I'm magnificent.

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Magnificent.

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How are you?

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I'm wonderful. Wonderful. Yeah. So today.

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Today.

SPEAKER_00 1:00

So today we're gonna talk about how much gore, in our opinion, is too much. Too much gore. I'm already not a huge fan of that. We know. I get quite queasy over certain things. I cannot do the throw-up. Cannot do that kind of stuff. Gore is okay. Like, okay. I personally just don't feel like it doesn't add anything for me, personally, to the movies. Now, if you are a gore fanatic, we're not judging. This is just our per personal opinion.

SPEAKER_01 1:33

I want to say that, like, I'm not. I'm not a fanatic.

SPEAKER_00 1:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:40

But I don't mind it, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 1:43

I mean it it can obviously convey. Obviously, it's more for like slashers, stuff like that. There is just I think it's great.

SPEAKER_01 1:54

I gotta I I think mine, I think for me, I feel like mine's more so of seeing it happen. Like if I'm seeing it, then I'm like, ugh, I'm like, yeah. But like if I see all like the blood nuts, the F Fra, I'm like, oh whatever. But like seeing it in real time and like the Brittany split and doing like that was unnecessary.

SPEAKER_00 2:25

That was very unnecessary. Now I know a lot of people love terrifier. I understand that. I do. But the way he be killing. But somet It's just the with gore, in my opinion. It's just a shock factor. And it definitely does its job in that aspect. Because we were rather shocked when Britney got split like that. So it does. It definitely has a purpose. Definitely does it. Like Scream wouldn't be Scream without those movies.

SPEAKER_01 2:53

Like Scream, Michael, Jason.

SPEAKER_00 2:55

Like those wouldn't be Freddie.

SPEAKER_01 2:57

Like those movies aren't like the screamish, because like we know we expect it. And and and they don't like fully like they really like show show it. It's just like a quick little move. Yeah. And you're doing it.

SPEAKER_00 3:12

There's rarely like. I'm not like there's yeah, there's rarely a lot of scenes that like it goes above and beyond.

SPEAKER_01 3:21

Correct.

SPEAKER_00 3:22

For the slashes.

SPEAKER_01 3:23

Correct. And I think I think that was like more so back in that time frame. I mean, granted, Scream is still around.

SPEAKER_02 3:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:31

However, I think with the new Screams, it developed more into the gore that we know now rather than the gore that they had back then.

SPEAKER_00 3:43

Like when Randy died in the band, we knew what was happening.

SPEAKER_01 3:45

Correct.

SPEAKER_00 3:46

We knew he was getting sliced and ice.

SPEAKER_01 3:48

That was that simple gourd, like the simple.

SPEAKER_00 3:50

We didn't have to see it for it to be super effective.

SPEAKER_01 3:53

Correct. Correct. But like in the new ones with um what's her name, Samantha? Tara. Sarah. Oh whoever they are. Um it showed more of like the action happening.

SPEAKER_00 4:07

The actual killing.

SPEAKER_01 4:08

Correct. And I think I think it's just a an age development thing.

SPEAKER_00 4:14

It's just a modern society. Modern society wants the shock factor. Modern society and we have a lot more access to unfortunately very disturbing images and very just just disturbing things on the web. Point like in general. So I think a lot of the directors and producers are trying to figure out a way for the newer generation of horror fans to still be interested.

SPEAKER_01 4:40

And we have a lot more hands-on things that we can grab. Like we have a lot more um resources to add. Like back then they didn't have like all these prosthetics and special effects. Special effects and stuff like that. They didn't have all that.

SPEAKER_00 4:58

It's completely different now. Now you can like literally have an entire dummy of a person.

SPEAKER_01 5:06

Right.

SPEAKER_00 5:07

And sliced and diced. And just like the nubs for terrifier. We know that was a her. I like that that kind of stuff. I'm not a this is I know we people love art. People do. People love their art. I just personally like the first one I really had no issue with. Because I feel like the first one other than the Britney split, that was aggressive. But like when she got when she got scalped and she and her body was getting worn.

SPEAKER_01 5:35

That wasn't like That wasn't terrible.

SPEAKER_00 5:37

Like that was that was intentional and that I think conveyed a point about him as a character and him as Aquilla that he's a little bit A little bit psycho. He's a little bit on the other. Crazy. I just know he's Jimmy. I will never forget that shit in my life. I loved art on that one. Like I literally did. I think art was so cool in that first one.

SPEAKER_01 6:01

He was just I was just like on her full body. He did. And her hair.

SPEAKER_00 6:06

And like full head to toe, head to everything. I said, Oh. He was just posing, like but like even I think one of the scenes for that too is like she had um the lights on and stuff in her body. I still wouldn't consider that like super super gory.

SPEAKER_01 6:21

Right.

SPEAKER_00 6:21

Like, yes, obviously, like she was cut up and stuff, but that still like was it was not that that crazy. Right. And I'm thinking of like super gory, I'm thinking of hostile. I am not a huge fan of those movies. Have you ever watched? Hostile. They are you know what a hostile is. So it's it's basically that premise. That also has a lot of like relations scenes in there. And we're not gonna go too deep, but I think that that just is in the same respect as core for me. It's like calm down, like VHS, those movies are ridiculous when it comes to those so the new teenage, the new teen era one, or like you know how we're talking about like our B-rated and our college things?

SPEAKER_01 7:12

It was it's those, like those that have like the five college students going to the campground type of deal. Yeah. They they have the gore. They have all that.

SPEAKER_00 7:23

They have just things that are unlike Jason literally like smacked somebody in a sleeping bag on a tree repeatedly. Um, we knew he did, you know, we knew he obviously died.

SPEAKER_01 7:36

Right.

SPEAKER_00 7:37

But that still was not super gore. Like, I don't need to see you have your head cut off, and I don't need to see just the insides of your body is just quite it's a lot. And it's like what is this gonna do for for the movie? That's what I had as such a bad problem with when it comes to Terrifier 3. Is that's what I felt like it was.

SPEAKER_01 8:01

Well then he's I I feel like uh I don't get me wrong, I love terrifier. I love terrifier. But the fact why why are you killing them in the shower?

SPEAKER_00 8:13

It's just I What are you doing now?

SPEAKER_01 8:15

Like what are you doing? And the fact you didn't have to do you didn't have to go up with a bootle and then slice them up like that.

SPEAKER_00 8:23

That it's just yes, it's just unnecessary ways, it's unnecessary ways of it. Because at that point, it's like you're overcompensating. That's what I feel like when it has so much gore in it, it's like we're overcompensating for the blood. Yes, in my opinion. Just in my opinion, guys. We know if you love terrifier, we're not shitting on it, we're not shitting on any of these movies. This is just our opinion.

SPEAKER_01 8:47

Yeah, and I know I know exactly what you mean. I think a lot of the times I think the director or whoever writes the script or whatever gets away from the whole horror part of it and just wants to throw in as much blood as they want.

SPEAKER_00 9:03

Because I think the dark web is so popular now that I I specifically think that has a lot to do with it because the dark web is full of like the cannibal stuff and full of people getting tortured. Again, I've never been on it, we'll never go on it.

SPEAKER_01 9:16

We'll never you will not catch me on that at all.

SPEAKER_00 9:20

No, I'm not, I'm not. No, but I know what kind of stuff is on there, and you have like the purge, them type of movies that now the purge had gore.

SPEAKER_01 9:29

Correct.

SPEAKER_00 9:30

But the purge, the plot of it never got lost, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_01 9:33

Well, see, and like the but the purge gore is different because it's like more of a realistic gore. Whereas like some of these other ones are just very fantastic and very like that's what I think the new ones. I don't think this will really happen.

SPEAKER_00 9:49

The new ones, when you put them against like the purge, things like that, the new ones, they are it's fetishized. I think that's how you say it. Fetishized, fetishized. I think that we definitely know, listen, we're not King Shaman on here. Everyone has everyone has their king. You do you boo. You do you boo. We like if you like it, I love it.

SPEAKER_01 10:09

I love you. Love that for you.

SPEAKER_00 10:11

Like I love that for you. I really love it. Love it. But as somebody I know, you know, the dark web, a lot of people, there are like live cams that unfortunately, you know, people getting tortured, things like that. Some people get their rocks off of that.

SPEAKER_01 10:28

Correct.

SPEAKER_00 10:28

And I really think that has a lot of people.

SPEAKER_01 10:31

They even did it in movies, too. Like they would show personally.

SPEAKER_00 10:33

That's what like hostile did sometimes is this, you know, these people are in a hostel, but then they get kidnapped or whatever, and they're in the dark web. Well, that, you know. Just saying.

SPEAKER_01 10:46

We watched that one show that I told you about with the um what's his name? Ed Ed Edine. He he was the one that would go and dig a body and had a relationship.

SPEAKER_00 11:03

That's Necroman. Necromancy?

SPEAKER_01 11:06

Oh yeah. But like he would that's what I mean.

SPEAKER_00 11:11

We have some movies based on that too. Contra it's called um con contraction or contract, something like that. It's a Netflix movie, and that's what happened is some girl bumped a guy or whatever the first time they met. Listen, you do you, huh? Definitely died. Uh we don't judge, we don't. But the guy, it showed him in like the previous scene having relations with a dead body, and then she got contracted, I think is what it was called. But she basically got a flesh-eating zombie virus because she had relations, and he apparently had had something with and she like literally at the end, she had to get shot because she was turning into a zombie.

SPEAKER_01 11:54

Well, that and that zombies are another kind of gore too, where they like just start slicing and dicing all their stuff off. But I don't think that that bothers me as much.

SPEAKER_00 12:06

Zombies really, I never really got scared of zombies. I never like zombies are cool. 28 days later, um, those zombies were aggressive. Right. Those zombies were quite aggressive. They were. Um, but I like to be.

SPEAKER_01 12:20

I don't know what it is. Like, I don't know why the zombie gore, because that's a lot of gore. That never bothers me.

SPEAKER_00 12:25

It doesn't bother me as much as like I cannot handle if you're just gonna sit here and just show somebody's intestines getting ripped out from their spine. Right. For what? For what? What are you doing?

SPEAKER_01 12:36

It's all so for me, it's always the headshots that they do. So yesterday again, obsession. Um we the the little car scene. Oh, the brick when I tell you, I said, did I need to see this?

SPEAKER_00 12:55

Did it need to go that far?

SPEAKER_01 12:57

Did you need to go like continuously I do, I do. Continuously banged her head on that stairing wheel with the wrong. And they had the nerve to show it's like terrifier, that's right. It was like some terrifier-esque thing to it. She they had the nerve to sit here and show her a little eyeball. Like when when Bear looked over, little Sarah's eyeball just out in the middle.

SPEAKER_00 13:24

I mean, there's like my type of I think gore that's effective. If we um neck bent uh bent neck lady. Yes. From um, why was I say terrifying? From the Haunting of Hill House. I had to think for a second. That one, yes, like obviously it's not it wasn't like nice to look at because she was Right. But like it made sense for what scene they were showing, and it was still disturbing. You can still be disturbing and not sit here and do what that like even terrifier all Hollows Eve. Did you see that one?

SPEAKER_01 13:59

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 13:59

That wasn't what Terrifier, like that was his first introduction.

SPEAKER_01 14:02

Oh, I know what you're talking about, though. I didn't see that.

SPEAKER_00 14:04

It wasn't even like that crazy. They did have a scene that they did smash up. Uh in in that, that was a little, I said, oh, oh my. But like he still wasn't killing people the way that he was. And that still was like effective, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_01 14:23

You know who loves their freaking blood? Who? Is it Rob Zombie?

SPEAKER_00 14:28

Okay, now Michael's Rob Zombie was a qua now. I think Rob Zombies Michaels, that has that's my favorite ones. I do not care. I love those.

SPEAKER_01 14:38

But he loves his blood.

SPEAKER_00 14:40

They made him a lot more animalistic in that one, and that's what I like, Michael. Because some you know, you can't tell me that you are uh you're a killer and you went through all this and you just gonna sit there and just be all docile and stuff.

SPEAKER_01 14:51

It's just go every once in a while.

SPEAKER_00 14:53

No, I wanna see you actually become the boogeyman and the monster. I think that's what Rob Zombie did on his. But I love I need to watch that.

SPEAKER_01 15:02

He loves his blood. Who's the director for um Kill Bill?

SPEAKER_00 15:08

Quentin Tarantino?

SPEAKER_01 15:10

Quentin Tarantino loves his blood.

SPEAKER_00 15:12

See, I don't watch a lot of those.

SPEAKER_01 15:13

Well, I'm just saying, like, if Quentin Tarantino were to direct a blood um horror movie, it would be all blood. See, like if I just all blood, all smushed guts, everything, because he loves his freaking blood.

SPEAKER_00 15:30

And have you ever The Hills Have Eyes?

SPEAKER_01 15:33

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 15:34

That is such a disturbing movie. They had they had um gore there too. They did, but I still like more that one specifically had more of a I think like the sexuals going on that made me quite uncomfortable. Like they did burn the daddy on a tree. I said, oh my. That still was not as crazy. Like why are we just rolling around and blah? Like, and guts, and and why are we doing why are we eating? I can't do the eating either. I feel like that is really part of the gore too. The the eating, the um when they make them the meals, like Thankskilling. Yes when she became the turkey. Yeah, yes, yes, yes, it's now I would say like that even had a I'm not gonna say too much. I will say it it got to a point.

SPEAKER_01 16:31

Correct.

SPEAKER_00 16:31

Like, at first, at first it was okay. At first, I'm like, okay, obviously, like with the name, we knew it was gonna be a slasher. So you have those expectations. I ain't gonna lie, when she did get scalped in the in the um the grocery store or the rental, I said, ooh. I think scalping just makes me look.

SPEAKER_01 16:50

I don't know why it makes me laugh so you're so aggressive. You're gonna have my head. Right, you have my whole head. Not my whole head, my brain just have bowl.

SPEAKER_00 17:00

That is crazy to make just out. I think that reminds you of zombies a little bit. And I think that's probably why because we're like, oh.

SPEAKER_01 17:10

Well, see, and sometimes it's just so unrealistic with scalping because like when when you see some of these movies that scalp, it automatically goes to your brain, right? Yeah. I'm like, you do know that we have a skull. When you scalp us, you won't see brain yet, you just see a skull. So why is it why are you going straight to my brain?

SPEAKER_00 17:29

It it they do. They do.

SPEAKER_01 17:30

So unrealistic.

SPEAKER_00 17:31

So like it was it was okay at first. I think uh honestly, I think the cork scene with her neck and she got her blood just drawn out. I mean, at that point, I was like, oh, so we just doing shit.

SPEAKER_01 17:45

Just doing shit.

SPEAKER_00 17:46

We're just doing stuff. But the turkey did, like, her being a turkey really did get me for like two seconds. Like, they the fact that she like she was getting cooked. She was fully cooked. She was getting cooked, she was oiled up.

SPEAKER_01 18:01

This fully like a turk.

SPEAKER_00 18:02

Look, and she was golden brown, like she looked like she would be tasting. She did, but I was like, you just made me an entree. Like, you just made me just made me a full turkey.

SPEAKER_01 18:16

Now people are about to feast on my body.

SPEAKER_00 18:19

That is crazy.

SPEAKER_01 18:20

Like, super crazy. Like, how? I don't understand. I don't understand.

SPEAKER_00 18:24

I don't understand how somebody and I think it's like scary because as just a person in general, how can you think to hurt me like that?

SPEAKER_01 18:32

That's and that's what I don't I never put my my full brain around cannibals.

SPEAKER_02 18:42

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 18:43

How are you looking at somebody? And they look tasty. And they look delicious to you. Like it's a whole different thing. Oh, girl, you beautiful. Right. But to like eat. I like to like sit here and say, oh, I want to bite you and nibble in feast on your whole blood. But I just stressed you the fuck out. Like chicken wings.

SPEAKER_00 19:04

Like got some little chips on the side. Like, what do you drink with me?

SPEAKER_01 19:07

What do you drink with me?

SPEAKER_00 19:08

Is it water? Or do you think it's tea? Like what if you're like? And then I'm gonna feel like, okay, am I like what if I'm larger? Right. You know, because I went through a haunted house when I did, when I had like my weight on me, whatever, and they did say the ham hock is here or some shit. I was majest. I was. I was outside and they did. I said, did you just call me a ham? Did you just call me a ham? A ham? Like a sliced ham?

SPEAKER_01 19:37

I will always remember that.

SPEAKER_00 19:39

I was so mad. I will I will never forget that. It was something like that. It was like, and that's what they said. They said, Oh, the ham hocks here. I said.

SPEAKER_01 19:48

But it's always them too being large themselves.

SPEAKER_00 19:52

Right. I think it was like a butcher scene or whatever. And I'm like, oh, so we both ham hocks?

SPEAKER_01 19:56

Right. Big face.

SPEAKER_00 19:58

I'm like, I was pissed. I was like, don't you call me a fucking ham hock? But I'm like, okay, do you want to eat me?

SPEAKER_01 20:04

Right. Do you? But like, me, you know me. I put on lotion and all that stuff. I put on all my like little smell goods and crap. If you eat me, that's all you're gonna taste.

SPEAKER_00 20:16

Maybe that's why.

SPEAKER_01 20:17

You ain't gonna taste no flavor, you're gonna taste lotion.

SPEAKER_00 20:20

But like, it's so scary to think that you want to like Jeffrey Dahmer and all that. Did Jeffrey eat people? I forgot.

SPEAKER_01 20:27

No, no, he didn't know. Or did he just kill and do things? Well drugg drug the boys and then did things to them and then killed them. Or killed them and did the things to them.

SPEAKER_00 20:39

I think Edgein also um did uh Edgeen did eat. Well, and didn't he do like the lampshades and shit?

SPEAKER_01 20:47

So Edgein, I don't think he ate them. I think he just used them to build furniture and stuff.

SPEAKER_00 20:54

That's insane too.

SPEAKER_01 20:55

Well, and didn't he use their skulls for bowls?

SPEAKER_00 20:58

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 21:00

I said he really ate out of these skulls. Also, like some frosty flakes. And washed them like they were dishes.

SPEAKER_00 21:08

Oh. So he was clean. He said, I don't want any of your juices. Your head juices still in my bowl. Because bitch, I still need to eat my food. But like, do you eat meat in the head like in the bowl? Are you eating meat in the bowl?

SPEAKER_01 21:21

No, he didn't eat nobody. He did not eat any flesh in the bowl. He used to use the flesh to make like lampshades, make sure I knew the lamp shades that should be. And all that stuff.

SPEAKER_00 21:30

Bitch, let me go to your house and sit on Bertha.

SPEAKER_01 21:34

I would be like eyeball in your lampshade.

SPEAKER_00 21:36

I would look like where did you get that?

SPEAKER_01 21:40

Where did you get that at? Uh home boots? Right. I'm like, there was Tiffany missing last week. Right, and that looks like Tiffany's eyeball. I see her eyeball. She does have some blue eyes, like right, that's what I'm saying. Like I just hurt.

SPEAKER_00 21:52

What if you see like a tattoo of your friend?

SPEAKER_01 21:54

I'll Because he didn't he he didn't care. Like he fooled her skin.

SPEAKER_00 22:00

And he did it he did a art too where he wore his I think he wore his mom's face. 'Cause he was what um who uh the Bates Motel and Norma Bates and all that, he was Correct.

SPEAKER_01 22:11

Um he he who they were based on for that he was the inspiration for Psycho Leatherface and Oh Leatherface, okay.

SPEAKER_00 22:18

Leatherface, those movies also like 'cause the thing is if you think about it, like, again, from what, other than the Netflix one that like came out a little bit ago, just the movies in general, I don't think that Leatherface was that gory.

SPEAKER_01 22:31

I just know that they ate people but it worked though for Leatherface. Like even if it was a little bit more gory, it worked because he had the chainsaw and it was it was it made sense for the plot. Correct, correct. So that's why I like that type of if it makes sense to why they're doing it, it don't bother me. But if you're just putting gore in there, just to put gore in there with no intentions of why you're doing it, then that's too much.

SPEAKER_00 22:55

Yeah. Or like start to do do the plot a little bit more. That's I just wish that like I that's why I liked the first one so much for Terra Fire because I feel like we learned more about correct like him a little bit at least before he was slicing and dicing and doing all that. Yes. And like the third one, the second one, if I'm not mistaken, trying to think. I know the nu that that nub scene was.

SPEAKER_01 23:22

That nub scene took me out.

SPEAKER_00 23:24

That was ridiculous. Cause what honestly, like, I know he's a crazed clown. Like, I do understand that. But at that point, we still did not know a lot about his background. And I do understand that they're made like they made his background kind of as the movies progressed. So I do understand that. But first off, why would you I have questions about how this man is just getting into these houses? I think he broke the window. I understand that. I'm stabbing you. Like, I don't care if I'm home alone, I'm gonna stab you.

SPEAKER_01 23:56

Right. I mean again, and I he's he's an entity.

SPEAKER_00 24:00

Now we learn that.

SPEAKER_01 24:02

We know that he's an entity, so like we can't fully like it.

SPEAKER_00 24:05

I just wish they would show more things, but like like he overpowered these people. Because from the first one he was just a skinny little man putting on some face makeup.

SPEAKER_01 24:14

That's what I'm saying. Like, but then like so that's that's that's my other thing. Like, how are you turning from this normal guy putting on your makeup in the first one? Because he was really to be an entity.

SPEAKER_00 24:26

Because we saw Sienna go underneath the water and then turn into Joan of Arc and get these magical powers. Where did that come from? That is That is the problem. That is why I am just such a I need to know type of person that if it doesn't and it does not make sense, then I'm just like, okay, what are we doing? What are we doing?

SPEAKER_01 24:48

Like, why are we in this?

SPEAKER_00 24:50

And I feel like the third one, he literally just killed people every two seconds. Correct. There was no plot detail until when he did smack Sienna though in that scene, I did get weak.

SPEAKER_01 25:00

Are you talking about in the bathroom?

SPEAKER_00 25:02

No, in the in like the very last, almost the last scenes, she was just sitting there and he just smacked the shit out of her in the head. And I was like, for what art? Like art. That did get me weak though. I said she said I was like, oh.

SPEAKER_01 25:18

He was just mad. He was.

SPEAKER_00 25:20

That's why I feel like if art leaned more into like the Freddy style of his comedic and just acting.

SPEAKER_01 25:28

I can see it. I can see it too.

SPEAKER_00 25:30

And I feel like I would like him so much more because like the scene that he was in the store with the glasses, like that shit is funny. Right. Like art do be getting me weak on some of the scenes. That's funny to me. But then when you in the shower and you just slicing up somebody's booty, what are we doing?

SPEAKER_01 25:47

What are we doing?

SPEAKER_00 25:48

What are we doing? Explain to me. Like that scene, and that scene specifically. I was in the theater, like, why are we in here? And what does this have to do with the plot of Sienna and the brother and the angel and the dad? Like, what does this have to do with the plot at the end of this movie?

SPEAKER_01 26:06

Right. What did these two people do to you?

SPEAKER_00 26:08

Correct, because they were just having a good time.

SPEAKER_01 26:10

You just in there just bothering them.

SPEAKER_00 26:12

That's such my biggest fear, too, is if anything ever happened in life, I'm taking a poop or I am doing that and un and exposed. I do not want to be you. I do not want to be murdered, exposed.

SPEAKER_01 26:25

Exposed, exposed.

SPEAKER_00 26:26

Like, I just got done doing the deed. I'm all types of nude.

SPEAKER_01 26:31

Just like psycho. She was just in the shower, just naked.

SPEAKER_00 26:36

You ever gonna go try to get I can't find the birthday? I'm so stressed out. Stress. You could you could just go straight those. I wanna do you understand as a woman I would use everything that I have on this body. I would just spread it apart if I just killed me then. Try to twerk out of the house.

SPEAKER_01 27:10

Like, this is Bertha.

SPEAKER_00 27:11

Tiffany. Bertha's a little, you know, she's a little more mature.

SPEAKER_01 27:16

A little happier.

SPEAKER_00 27:26

Tiffany making up. Bertha Tiffany are making a pair of my car.

SPEAKER_01 27:32

Bertha was having a ham hog that he was talking about.

SPEAKER_00 27:35

I was so bitch. They did. They called my hairs. And that was when I was real chunky. So I was like, I'm I did not look bad because Jess felt bad. Right. She didn't. She said. It's okay, Jess.

SPEAKER_02 27:48

It's okay, Jess. It's okay.

SPEAKER_00 27:50

It's okay. Okay, they call me a ham hole. I couldn't even get scared for the rest of the night. I was so I'm so bad.

SPEAKER_01 27:58

I would have been like, I would have been right back through and said, excuse me.

SPEAKER_00 28:02

Just like I need to talk to this actor.

SPEAKER_01 28:04

No, or I would have been I would have been behind somebody heavier. And I'm like, you ain't call her a ham hole.

SPEAKER_00 28:10

Right. You just gonna call me one? Right. Didn't they um went to the skeleton key room? Then we were at the slaughterhouse, and then they tried to didn't Stones start talking about brisket with one of the actors. I was so embarrassed. Yes, he was. I said Stones, what do we want to do?

SPEAKER_01 28:28

It was the slaughter one. We were in that room for earth in the key skeleton key room for a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 28:33

Those were so I needed them to bring those back. Those were so fun.

SPEAKER_01 28:39

Well, you had to pay for like extra now for everything.

SPEAKER_00 28:41

I would the thing is the skeleton key room, I would definitely pay extra for it because that made sense. That was an extra, you know, an extra thing.

SPEAKER_01 28:49

If we if we go to USS Nightmare, I'm paying for fast lane. I can't. That line pissed me off last time. That is because we were about to fight.

SPEAKER_00 28:58

We were about to fight. Well the thing is too, we did not realize. We thought we were good though, because we did the first like little set of line, and then when we turned The Chorus and surprised. We said Oh, and at that point we was already an hour in, so we're like Okay, that's fine. And then when we got up to the front front after probably four hours, I'm not like we were in there for four hours.

SPEAKER_01 29:21

Correct.

SPEAKER_00 29:21

And then they try to have these two people in front of us that didn't even you remember that?

SPEAKER_01 29:25

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 29:26

We were about to fight.

SPEAKER_01 29:28

I said absolutely not.

SPEAKER_00 29:30

We said you're not getting in front.

SPEAKER_01 29:31

At all.

SPEAKER_00 29:32

You're not.

SPEAKER_01 29:34

And then the dent's line took me out too, but I like the dent though.

SPEAKER_00 29:38

The dent, I think, has a better um they have a better cue system.

SPEAKER_01 29:42

I think I think the dent line only took me out because the people in front of us, that girl, got on the last nervous system.

SPEAKER_00 29:48

They did, they did.

SPEAKER_01 29:49

She was getting on my last nervous system, screaming at everything. Like, ma'am, this is a hot house, what do you expect?

SPEAKER_00 29:57

She was it was because it was a bunch of like those teenagers and shit in front of us. We're gonna we can do the fast pass next time that we get there for sure. I ain't gonna time for her. Because I I do not. But I'm weak we did, you know. That's the den is actually so scary.

SPEAKER_01 30:11

It's very scary.

SPEAKER_00 30:13

Those chairs took me out when we went in there.

SPEAKER_01 30:15

Because, like, why are y'all stacked like that?

SPEAKER_00 30:17

I was ready to lead. As soon as I saw them, I said, Oh, bitch. Like, no, thank you. And then the guy in the sewer killed the guy in the sewer.

SPEAKER_01 30:24

That guy sore took the bee out. I didn't know you were real. I am gone. I cannot. I didn't know you were real. Like he took me out out. Like his half body was just I was like, bitch, what are you doing?

SPEAKER_00 30:40

You did so good. Gore there doesn't bother me though. Like, I've never been bothered by a haunted house gore. Because I expect them to be like as insane.

SPEAKER_01 30:50

Well, uh that one too, is because it's already painted on too. I feel like if we went to one of those ones that we would never go to, because I'm not going through that. I don't I'm not signing a waiver done this year. Um where they do sign those little waivers and they go in there and like they can do whatever they want to you.

SPEAKER_00 31:10

Oh like McCanny Manor. Yeah. So we did an episode this was um pre-battle.

SPEAKER_01 31:18

We did very pre-battle.

SPEAKER_00 31:21

Pre-battle. Um we did an episode a little bit on McCanny Manor, but that is also, I feel like, can be kind of related to gore, like how much gore is too gore, because we do go to haunted houses and shit a lot. Um, that one is a real life torture. Correct. Because he does stream it. It because he has been arrested now. Like he actually has been arrested for it. Um, and there was documents allegedly, we're gonna say allegedly, because no. Um, allegedly, yes, he was streaming that to the dark web.

SPEAKER_01 31:54

Right.

SPEAKER_00 31:54

Those torture sessions. The fact that they had a wait list for that is insane, but it shows you that today's society for some reason, I mean unfortunately, some people really do.

SPEAKER_01 32:09

It's crazy to me though.

SPEAKER_00 32:11

Like, that's that you that's like us after this eating our crumble cookies about to turn on torture of just a real life per person getting or like eating our crumble while we're watching it. That's what I'm saying, like using that as literally a form of relaxation is what a lot of these people do, and it's a thing, you know. I think that it's come that it comes from them wanting to feel like they have more power over you because a lot of the times you gotta think they probably are paying a buku amount of money to watch this shit. So they already kind of borrow on an upper, upper class type of situation.

SPEAKER_01 32:52

Mm-mm.

SPEAKER_00 32:53

Like the um the one that we watched, the oh my gosh, which one was that? The one that we watched, um, we've watched a couple times, but the person with Britney Snow, the person that his her brother was sick, and then by the time she got home after all that, it was like they were at dinner together. I just forgot the title of it though.

SPEAKER_01 33:15

Something game, something, something about a game. I don't talk about it.

SPEAKER_00 33:20

That that one is also, they did some nasty shit in that one.

SPEAKER_01 33:24

They did. They did.

SPEAKER_00 33:26

And it's all because they were just winning the grand prize of the money. Money is the once you get that money involved and get and get that, that is people start doing stupid stuff. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. So I and like human centipede, bitch.

SPEAKER_01 33:46

That's a whole nother type of war, too.

SPEAKER_00 33:48

That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01 33:49

That is a And that's like a nasty war.

SPEAKER_00 33:53

That's just like very unhygienic.

SPEAKER_01 33:56

Like, why? Why why in your right mind? Why would you even think to do this to people?

SPEAKER_00 34:02

I don't I forgot who that's disturbing. That's why, like, as a movie. It didn't have as a movie when you have scenes like that or when you have topics like that, it does make me think of okay, who was the like the creative director of this? Why is this something or how I've never thought to sew people into my ass. Like, I've never I've never like thought that. That just like what I've never thought to be like, I wonder what that looks like.

SPEAKER_01 34:35

Imagine just being taken and being placed in this situation where you couldn't do nothing, but you're just sitting here this whole time.

SPEAKER_02 34:42

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 34:43

Because they probably have like drugged them and stuff, obviously, to like so you don't sleep, nothing. You're just a I would rather be the first one.

SPEAKER_00 34:52

Um, absolutely. I would feel so bad, but absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 34:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:59

Like, if I see that I'm not the first one, oh, the fact that I will I don't even need to kill you. I'm killing myself. Like, I'm getting an I'm getting the closest thing that I could grab and I'm ending it.

SPEAKER_01 35:11

The the middle one has the worst.

SPEAKER_00 35:13

Like, the middle one. No, the last one has it worst. Because you got all these peoples because you got through the system. Uh-huh. Because they're combining with the person in front of them. What if I have an allergic reaction? What if you eat wheat? And I have hives. Like, I'm just hived up.

SPEAKER_01 35:33

Swelled up.

SPEAKER_00 35:34

I'm just hived up.

SPEAKER_01 35:35

But then, like, what if one of them passed away?

SPEAKER_00 35:37

Correct. It's just like controlling twins. Like, what if, yeah, like what if one of them passes away?

SPEAKER_01 35:42

If the if the first one passed away, cool great. You just chopped away. The last one passed away, cool great. The middle one, if that one passes away, what y'all gonna do?

SPEAKER_00 35:53

Right. You just gonna the centipede around with this dead, this middle body.

SPEAKER_01 35:57

Because the back one is smelling all of that.

SPEAKER_00 36:01

And you know, I think when you pass away, like things release anyway. Right. Like that, like that kind of gore is just so unnecessary because it's just like that to me is no longer horror. That to me is just like a sick fantasy.

SPEAKER_01 36:16

Now people love that.

SPEAKER_00 36:18

That's what I'm saying. It's like we've we watched it because we're like, okay, we've never watched this.

SPEAKER_01 36:23

Right.

SPEAKER_00 36:23

So, you know, I've never watched it again.

SPEAKER_01 36:26

At all.

SPEAKER_00 36:27

Like, I've never watched it again. At all. Um, have you ever watched Megan Is Missing? Megan is missing? Mm-hmm. Like Megan the Robot? No. It is. I watched it one time. We'll never watch it again. It is the most disturbing Destarbing. I'm gonna show you a screenshot. Oh no. I'm gonna show you a screenshot. Um It is basically like the real quick synopsis is it's about internet safety. Like this, these two teenage girls, one of them gets kidnapped, and then her friend gets kidnapped too.

SPEAKER_01 37:02

Right.

SPEAKER_00 37:04

This scene alone, like, it's oh it's fine-ish until like the last 10 minutes.

SPEAKER_01 37:10

No no.

SPEAKER_00 37:11

The last 10 minutes as a woman, also, it is the most disturbing. That and I spit on your grave. I will never watch that shit again as a girl. Absolutely not. It is very um R word, I'm not gonna say it on this, but it's very R-word heavy, and that kind of shit also is still gore, in my opinion. And that kind of shit is so disturbing to me. That is too much because you get you see this still shot, and you're probably gonna laugh because me and you laugh when we get um uncomfortable. And it is probab it's a good, I would say like it's a good movie to watch about internet safety. Like, like, bitch. No, like literally. And the ending. It is, it is. The no, like the ending is literally no, and this is like in the movie. This is in the movie. Um, no. The in no, because then you learn then you learn this. Yeah. What is it? That's her. So the OG friend is um missing, and then she basically gets unfortunately. No, like literally.

SPEAKER_01 38:31

That's insane.

SPEAKER_00 38:33

As a and like there's a last scene in there. I'm not gonna really like go super in depth because it's just so like disturbing. Um, the the last scene in there breaks my fucking heart. It does. It breaks my heart. Basically, she the friend. Like, because the friend was basically trying to like learn where her friend was. Right. So, like, she was she basically started talking to the dude that the friend originally talked to. And the friend and the dude was like, Oh, well, like, I think I seen her yesterday or some shit, and like co coaxed her, if that's the word, to come and like meet him. And that's why. And the last scene of it is she's in a barrel, and she's b she is pleading to him, please please let me go, please let me go. And he she's getting buried alive. It is the saddest, like, I will never watch that movie again, and those kind of movies are they're so gory in that aspect that it's like that is too much. See, that is too much for me, specifically as a woman.

SPEAKER_01 39:34

And I hate thinking about being buried alive that makes me want to gag.

SPEAKER_00 39:38

I think that sometimes gore becomes too gory when it just turns into human indecency.

SPEAKER_01 39:44

Right.

SPEAKER_00 39:45

Like, it's what's the point of it? It's like the the director, did you want to kill women?

SPEAKER_01 39:53

Well, and that's sometimes a that's what I question too. Like, yeah, are these some I mean some of them are like real lives or shorter than fake heard, but like the ones are like super like look like they just like made up.

SPEAKER_00 40:08

That's not necessarily a true story.

SPEAKER_01 40:10

This right, like where did your brain go?

SPEAKER_00 40:12

Like Yeah, that's what scares me is I feel like a lot of like the human sympathy, where did your brain go?

SPEAKER_01 40:17

Like you know that's no type of story.

SPEAKER_00 40:19

And there's three of them.

SPEAKER_01 40:20

Like, you know that's no type of story.

SPEAKER_00 40:22

There is three of them.

SPEAKER_01 40:23

The fact that it's so popular that you had three of them.

SPEAKER_00 40:26

Correct.

SPEAKER_01 40:27

Why are all y'all liking this movie?

SPEAKER_00 40:29

Weird assets. No offense. I'm not trying to judge.

SPEAKER_01 40:32

I mean, if you like it, you like it, but like for us, nothing you correct.

SPEAKER_00 40:36

This is just a personal like opinion. We know because the thing is like Scream, Leatherface, all that, they made that such into a fantasy, into a separate world. Like, we know. Now, granted, Ghostface originally was um based on this on real life and everything like that, but they made it into its own Woodsboro and like you know, it made it into its own thing. Leatherface, we know what it was based off of. Correct. But they still made it, made it all of that.

SPEAKER_01 41:05

All that, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 41:06

And they don't like it's very the killing is kind of second nature to those type of movies, though.

SPEAKER_01 41:13

Right, they they more solely based off they tell the story, and then the killings just happen to be in the Those are the kind of gore that I'm fine with.

SPEAKER_00 41:22

Like, yes, tell the tell me the story, yes, I'm gonna see you. That's why like Things Killing wasn't terrible, because I feel like they had a really good story. They just turned into a turkey. Turkey. But I feel like the story. I just know when that meat thermometer popped out of her, I said. I said, oh, so you real cooked her to perfection. You made sure she was internally.

SPEAKER_01 41:48

You said happy Thanksgiving.

SPEAKER_00 41:49

You did. I think that will mean that was that's why I didn't really go over the edge, because I was like, this is aggressive, but it's still, you know, I was still able to enjoy the story as a whole.

SPEAKER_01 41:59

Well, and then the other the other part of like talking about killings is sometimes I don't understand why you're killing me when I didn't do nothing to you or have nothing to do with your storyline.

SPEAKER_02 42:15

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 42:16

I don't like when they just randomly kill people. Like serial killers are different because they just want to kill and whatever. They don't care who it is, they just want to kill it just for their satisfactory. But like, for like Michael and Jason, why y'all killing?

SPEAKER_00 42:35

Michael, you know, Michael did go to Woods Woodsword. Oh Michael did go to hate to Illinois, had in, had it. Isn't that how I say it? Haddon. Hadden. Hadden Illinois. Um Michael did do that and he did murk some neighbors that had he never killed kids, I don't think.

SPEAKER_01 42:50

No, he never killed a kid.

SPEAKER_00 42:51

I don't think. But he said, listen, the neighbors can get it.

SPEAKER_01 42:54

Right.

SPEAKER_00 42:54

He went into these houses and he he did. He was he that was a little rude, Michael. Because at first it was very much just Lori focused, family focused, all right.

SPEAKER_01 43:03

Well, and then like I can understand, like, if you kill people because of your house and you don't want nobody in your house.

SPEAKER_00 43:08

That's why he yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:08

And then Jason, you killed people originally because you were at the camp and then you everybody was just making live. You killed them because of trauma. But then now you're starting to kill just people in your way. Like if I'm walking down the street, not even trying to stop you from doing what you're doing.

SPEAKER_00 43:27

Jason will kill you.

SPEAKER_01 43:28

I'm just dead because I'm like right here.

SPEAKER_00 43:31

Michael will also kill you.

SPEAKER_01 43:33

Like, why? I'm not stopping you.

SPEAKER_00 43:35

Freddie got Freddie did the kids and the the lineage of the children. So that's what Freddie was not.

SPEAKER_01 43:43

Freddie said, I'm I'm I have my story and I'm sticking with it.

SPEAKER_00 43:46

Correct. Freddie said, I got the people I'm trying.

SPEAKER_01 43:48

Anybody in my way, you're just okay, cute. But I'm not gonna. But I'm going after who I'm going after. I'm going I'm here for them.

SPEAKER_00 43:54

Scream, you know who screaming. Scream said, Sydney is my girl.

SPEAKER_01 44:00

Girl and her family.

SPEAKER_00 44:01

Correct. So we, you know, so that's why, yes, Michael and Jason did, and but you could tell that was too on the later because that's for some reason what the new horror fans and that's how I said it's like it's more of a later situation rather than it being like at that time situation, just because they needed to, I guess, keep up with what was happening in the horror world. I mean, unfortunately, gore is just gore is just so prevalent, unfortunately, now with it.

SPEAKER_01 44:32

You know who likes gore? Freud.

SPEAKER_00 44:34

Frey.

SPEAKER_01 44:35

Freud.

SPEAKER_00 44:35

Freed, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_01 44:36

Every time we do see every time we watch a movie that has gore, he's like, woo, hoo hoo, hoo, hoo, hoo.

SPEAKER_00 44:42

I think he is. I think he already sounds like. I think that he, as long as he never like goes crazy.

SPEAKER_01 44:48

He might. I think he might one day.

SPEAKER_00 44:50

Like, and also, um, just kind of to touch, I guess, the lat the last bit, the like Evil Dead, those are really gory. I still think those are more effective though. Like Evil Dead um Rise, the cheese grater scene when she made my skin a problem. But it made sense.

SPEAKER_01 45:10

That and those type of movies are camp.

SPEAKER_00 45:13

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 45:14

Can't I fucking? Camp Gore is a whole different genre.

SPEAKER_00 45:17

Camp gore doesn't disturb me as much as well it makes it makes sense though, because the bot like first off, the the dance or the necro, whatever is in that book, is taking over your body. And it's meant to, like, it's meant to be disturbing. It is. I just remember we was watching Evil Dead Rise and they were doing the chant, and me and you, because we were right next to the speaker. I said, I thought so. We was in the one theater too. We was in the devil one and they always send us two. I swear to Bob that I thought that they were in the theater chanting next to my ear.

SPEAKER_01 45:53

Was so prevalent. It was so present. It didn't sound like a speaker. No. That's the thing. It's why we started right next to us. We started looking at each other like we were about to rise. We ain't doing this chance. No, thank you.

SPEAKER_00 46:07

That was so in our earbuds. Chanting, chanting. I said. It was so scary. That I've never been so scared of at all. I said, oh, we real life.

SPEAKER_01 46:15

Like we about to we about to really like some. Who's doing that?

SPEAKER_00 46:20

I would've got up so quick.

SPEAKER_01 46:22

I would have got up so quick. I was like, get out of here. And then they bring my stage that day either. No.

SPEAKER_00 46:27

Because we was in that theater. We was in the the back, the back that they always send our little movies to. The ones that the because I guarantee you it's got like some protection spell on it. Something. Somebody. Because they said, y'all weirdos, go back.

SPEAKER_01 46:41

Or they have a emergency button where it just locks everybody in there.

SPEAKER_00 46:46

Because they think if I ever got into that situation, I got locked in a room, it would kill me. I am not good at high pressure, scary situations.

SPEAKER_01 46:55

Because I don't know what to do.

SPEAKER_00 46:56

I would not know, I would just start crying. I would cry. I would start crying.

SPEAKER_01 47:00

Any any logical would just be logical thing would just leave them hitting.

SPEAKER_00 47:06

Either we would shut down or we would go into survival mode, aka we fighting everybody.

SPEAKER_01 47:11

Like we fighting everybody around us. I feel like I feel like we would sit and just assess the situation. We would stop, just stop, stop, not even move. Assess what's happening, and then what type of plan.

SPEAKER_00 47:28

We wouldn't know what the plan is. All we would have to do is look at each other and be like, alright. Okay. We know what we're about to do. We we know. So you know, now I'm a little gored out. I'm very gored out. I'm gor now. We have to watch like Pretty Princess or some shit.

SPEAKER_01 47:45

Barbie or something. We do cuz because I can't.

SPEAKER_00 47:49

It's it's true. So if you let us know if you're a big gore fan. Um, we have fan mail that you can definitely uh use. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 47:58

Let us know what your favorite gore is or what what gore scene was too much for you to do.

SPEAKER_00 48:06

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SPEAKER_01 48:14

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SPEAKER_00 48:15

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SPEAKER_01 48:21

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SPEAKER_02 48:26

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SPEAKER_01 48:28

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SPEAKER_00 48:43

We are prepared for the ghoulies to come. But as always.

SPEAKER_01 48:49

That's all until next Saturday.

SPEAKER_00 48:52

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SPEAKER_01 48:59

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SPEAKER_00 49:12

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